Joe Rogan recently sat down with former President Donald Trump to tackle a major topic: crime in America and what we’re really seeing—or not seeing—in the numbers.
The conversation took off, hitting over 31 million views on YouTube within a day, not counting Spotify listeners.
They discussed the FBI’s recent crime data updates, which show a troubling trend in underreported crime. This is an area the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) has been diving into for years, revealing patterns in crime data that are often left out of the official stats.
Trump didn’t hold back in pointing out what he saw as issues with how the FBI’s data was first reported.
He argued that the initial stats left out some of the country’s hardest-hit cities, painting an overly optimistic picture that didn’t match reality.
When the data got updated, it showed a clear rise in crime, aligning with CPRC’s findings that crime often goes underreported or underrecognized in national statistics.
The conversation also shifted to why so many crimes are going unreported. Trump argued that police morale is at an all-time low, which could be leaving some communities feeling unsupported.
Calls to “defund the police” have made some officers feel stretched thin and discouraged. Rogan chimed in, adding that this lack of morale can lead to fewer people reporting crimes, as they feel the police won’t be able to help them anyway.
This situation creates a cycle where crime doesn’t make it into the data, and it’s tough for the public to understand the real picture.
Their discussion brings up a crucial point: without accurate crime statistics, it’s hard for anyone—whether the public or policymakers—to fully grasp what’s going on.
And it makes a case for the importance of the Second Amendment. In a time when police may not always be able to respond quickly, the right to self-defense becomes more than just a principle; it’s a vital option for many Americans who want to feel secure in their homes and communities.
The CPRC has long emphasized this right, reminding us that responsible gun ownership can be a crucial tool in personal and public safety, especially as communities face increasing crime and fewer resources.
In short, Rogan and Trump’s chat wasn’t just another headline—it tapped into a very real, pressing issue about crime and the ways Americans might need to adapt to stay safe.
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